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	<description>exactly that</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: why it&#8217;s not &#8220;just a game&#8221; &#171; random babble&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://randombabble.com/2008/04/23/i-never-expected/#comment-1046</link>
		<dc:creator>why it&#8217;s not &#8220;just a game&#8221; &#171; random babble&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a&#160;game&#8221;  because, like i have said before, now more than once, we are dealing not only w/ words and their meanings, which are big and heavy all on their own merits, but b/c we are dealing w/ actual people.  real [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a&nbsp;game&#8221;  because, like i have said before, now more than once, we are dealing not only w/ words and their meanings, which are big and heavy all on their own merits, but b/c we are dealing w/ actual people.  real [...]</p>
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		<title>By: changing perspectives &#171; random babble&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://randombabble.com/2008/04/23/i-never-expected/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>changing perspectives &#171; random babble&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 06:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  while i have been musing on the issue of my own privilege, and trying to understand racism better, i have noticed that it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  while i have been musing on the issue of my own privilege, and trying to understand racism better, i have noticed that it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://randombabble.com/2008/04/23/i-never-expected/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in the same topic, I feel it is important to remember the source of an insult, and the decontexting nature of the written word.  For example, the best redneck and hillbilly jokes I've ever heard come from my redneck and hillbilly family.  They rely heavily on negative stereotypes, but are a form of good natured and community-building humor.

If I were to write them down and post them on the internet they would be some of the most racist, white-bashing phrases and quips I can imagine.  Coming from my uncles, whom were the friendliest and kindest people I knew, these jokes had the same degree of negativity and hate-mongering as a Dilbert cartoon.  "It's funny because it's true."  

Taking away the absurd situations and the differences in dialect, they boiled down to neutral comments like:
"Some poor white folks neglect lawn care."
"Many people in my neighborhood have a few junkers in the yard."
"I am distantly related to my wife."
"I have had some bad luck related to my choices in life."

It was the way in which the jokes were told that made them funny; the topic was pertanent and easily understood but ultimately irrelevant.  No one should be allowed to spew slurs and mong hate.  (Monging fish is fine, but I draw the line at hate.)  But the reason that Clerks II is funny is in part because some ignorent people don't know what words are slurs and what words ane not.  If I use the term "snoofly" as a racial slur I am behaving irresponsably and deserve some social ostriscism, even if no one understands me, because it is the intent of my words to incite feelings of hatred.  If I am honestly trying to "take back" a word, like my brothers and sisters at heart that reclaimed "geek", then I say more power to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in the same topic, I feel it is important to remember the source of an insult, and the decontexting nature of the written word.  For example, the best redneck and hillbilly jokes I&#8217;ve ever heard come from my redneck and hillbilly family.  They rely heavily on negative stereotypes, but are a form of good natured and community-building humor.</p>
<p>If I were to write them down and post them on the internet they would be some of the most racist, white-bashing phrases and quips I can imagine.  Coming from my uncles, whom were the friendliest and kindest people I knew, these jokes had the same degree of negativity and hate-mongering as a Dilbert cartoon.  &#8220;It&#8217;s funny because it&#8217;s true.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Taking away the absurd situations and the differences in dialect, they boiled down to neutral comments like:<br />
&#8220;Some poor white folks neglect lawn care.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Many people in my neighborhood have a few junkers in the yard.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I am distantly related to my wife.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I have had some bad luck related to my choices in life.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was the way in which the jokes were told that made them funny; the topic was pertanent and easily understood but ultimately irrelevant.  No one should be allowed to spew slurs and mong hate.  (Monging fish is fine, but I draw the line at hate.)  But the reason that Clerks II is funny is in part because some ignorent people don&#8217;t know what words are slurs and what words ane not.  If I use the term &#8220;snoofly&#8221; as a racial slur I am behaving irresponsably and deserve some social ostriscism, even if no one understands me, because it is the intent of my words to incite feelings of hatred.  If I am honestly trying to &#8220;take back&#8221; a word, like my brothers and sisters at heart that reclaimed &#8220;geek&#8221;, then I say more power to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Brave Sir Robin</title>
		<link>http://randombabble.com/2008/04/23/i-never-expected/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>Brave Sir Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love a good rant!!

(and this was a GREAT one)

Rock on WOMAN!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love a good rant!!</p>
<p>(and this was a GREAT one)</p>
<p>Rock on WOMAN!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ouyangdan</title>
		<link>http://randombabble.com/2008/04/23/i-never-expected/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>ouyangdan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks, everyone!

it's good to be able to take something so negative and turn it into something positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks, everyone!</p>
<p>it&#8217;s good to be able to take something so negative and turn it into something positive.</p>
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		<title>By: pidomon</title>
		<link>http://randombabble.com/2008/04/23/i-never-expected/#comment-532</link>
		<dc:creator>pidomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Words do have meaning
Here are some for you:
YOU ROCK THE HOUSE!!!11ekeven!!11!

I need to read things like this to remind me of my privilege and keep me thinking and evolving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words do have meaning<br />
Here are some for you:<br />
YOU ROCK THE HOUSE!!!11ekeven!!11!</p>
<p>I need to read things like this to remind me of my privilege and keep me thinking and evolving.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Queen (AKA The Senatrix)</title>
		<link>http://randombabble.com/2008/04/23/i-never-expected/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Queen (AKA The Senatrix)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to but in cause I know a wee bit of the background on this-

Someone who calls you up to spew hateful shit at you has lost the right to polite discourse. 

If I stood in front of an African American and started telling n***er jokes- no one would expect them to be polite in telling me to fuck off. If i stood in front of Jewish synagog yelling Heil Hitler, they would have every right to tell me to stfu.

But for some reason we think that it is okay to insult women in front of women and that when women complain about the insults we can insult them further for being upset about it and not getting the joke. 

Sexism is just as fucking nasty as racism and we have very right to be pissed and to demand that sexists keep their traps shut around us. We may not make them think better of women (but really nothing could) but we can teach them how to live in a polite society without being a douchebag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to but in cause I know a wee bit of the background on this-</p>
<p>Someone who calls you up to spew hateful shit at you has lost the right to polite discourse. </p>
<p>If I stood in front of an African American and started telling n***er jokes- no one would expect them to be polite in telling me to fuck off. If i stood in front of Jewish synagog yelling Heil Hitler, they would have every right to tell me to stfu.</p>
<p>But for some reason we think that it is okay to insult women in front of women and that when women complain about the insults we can insult them further for being upset about it and not getting the joke. </p>
<p>Sexism is just as fucking nasty as racism and we have very right to be pissed and to demand that sexists keep their traps shut around us. We may not make them think better of women (but really nothing could) but we can teach them how to live in a polite society without being a douchebag.</p>
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		<title>By: ouyangdan</title>
		<link>http://randombabble.com/2008/04/23/i-never-expected/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>ouyangdan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks, Jennifer!

Craig (is that who i think it is?),

i wrote this after someone i considered to be a close friend made several horrible comments to me, after several arguments a while back, and tried to pass it off as a joke.  it hurt more from this person that from most people who behave this way around me.

i write angrily, sometimes, b/c i think, like you mentioned, that a lot of people are out there and are saying things nicely, and it isn't getting anyone anywhere.  i am tired of being nice.  nice isn't getting us noticed or listened to.  i am past nice, skipped pleasant, and moved right to "listen the fuck up".  some people will dismiss me on that alone, and say "you devalue your message by using that language".  if you can't hear my message for the big fucking trees, get the hell out of my forest.

thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks, Jennifer!</p>
<p>Craig (is that who i think it is?),</p>
<p>i wrote this after someone i considered to be a close friend made several horrible comments to me, after several arguments a while back, and tried to pass it off as a joke.  it hurt more from this person that from most people who behave this way around me.</p>
<p>i write angrily, sometimes, b/c i think, like you mentioned, that a lot of people are out there and are saying things nicely, and it isn&#8217;t getting anyone anywhere.  i am tired of being nice.  nice isn&#8217;t getting us noticed or listened to.  i am past nice, skipped pleasant, and moved right to &#8220;listen the fuck up&#8221;.  some people will dismiss me on that alone, and say &#8220;you devalue your message by using that language&#8221;.  if you can&#8217;t hear my message for the big fucking trees, get the hell out of my forest.</p>
<p>thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://randombabble.com/2008/04/23/i-never-expected/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Right the fuck on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Right the fuck on.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://randombabble.com/2008/04/23/i-never-expected/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(HAhaha.  I can't use greater-than and less-than signs.)

But some, more openminded, will consider who wrote it and why, and ponder the similarities between jokes about [insert thier family's negative stereotype] and thier favorite joke about [insert any other negative stereotype].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(HAhaha.  I can&#8217;t use greater-than and less-than signs.)</p>
<p>But some, more openminded, will consider who wrote it and why, and ponder the similarities between jokes about [insert thier family's negative stereotype] and thier favorite joke about [insert any other negative stereotype].</p>
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